Terrorized For Over 18 Months – Ep. 140

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[00:00:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Forget facts.

[00:00:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Forget logic.

[00:00:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Forget everything that seems real.

[00:00:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Just trust.

[00:00:21] Believe.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: A story submission by Grayson.

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The following story contains some references to animal harm.

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Listener discretion is advised.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I've heard from several sources, and that I find to be true, is that each holds its own

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_00]: vibration based on its chemical makeup.

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_00]: As everything vibrates to some degree, crystals vibrate as well, and each uniquely depends

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_00]: upon the type of crystal.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_00]: So I would experiment with different types of crystals placed on my third eye area in

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: my meditations to sort of tune into this inherent vibration.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Some brought me to states of bliss, some showed visions, and some helped to process

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_00]: thoughts and emotions.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Now that you have my background for these experiences in mind, I can begin my story and

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_00]: discuss the two most vivid visions I've received from these guided crystal meditations and

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_00]: the results of what I experienced in them.

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_00]: The first vivid vision I remember was when I was examining a large, nearly flawless clear

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_00]: quartz that I had just received from South America.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I set the intention of what caused the one flaw going through the crystal, a large ding

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_00]: on one side that progressed to crack through the crystal.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_00]: In my vision, I saw a South American man handing the crystal to a lion humanoid.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_00]: This being examined the crystal and threw it to the side where it cracked on a rock,

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_00]: forming damage exactly as it was damaged in person.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I then instantly came out of the vision.

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Before this, I had not researched paranormal entities, but I immediately began to look

[00:03:07] [SPEAKER_00]: for similar experiences.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Indeed, some people claim to have channeled with anthropomorphic lion beings.

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw artistic depictions of these channeled beings as well as art and popular culture depicting

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_00]: similar beings.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_00]: While I can now see that this is a potential fantasy creature to some, what I saw in my

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_00]: vision wasn't imaginary.

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a real living and breathing being that can't properly be expressed in art.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_00]: The result of this vision is that I began researching, channeling and focusing my

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_00]: meditations on contacting an extraterrestrial race for some time after the fact.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I began experimenting with crystals that were purported to assist in this contact.

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I also found that you must be careful when you open yourself up to seeking contact, as

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_00]: not everything, both physically in the universe and energetically, is benevolent.

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I had several experiences with what I perceived to be darker intentioned beings when I

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_00]: began and would immediately close the contact after sensing these intentions.

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Eventually, I entered my meditation with a specific type of crystal and the intention

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_00]: of seeking knowledge for healing from positive beings.

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I found myself on what appeared to be a spaceship made of stone.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: There were no controls as we know them, but instead, the beings on the ship were

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_00]: seemingly connected mentally to the ship to interface with and control the ship's functions.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_00]: The beings themselves were anthropomorphic light beings, as best as I can describe them.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have faces or features as we do, but instead appeared to be made of pure

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: light.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_00]: They seemed to radiate their emotions while speaking directly into my mind as if through

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: thought.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I was greeted by one of the beings on the ship and shown to a round table in

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_00]: the middle of a room.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_00]: On this round stone table, or rather hovering in the air above it, was what appeared to

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_00]: be a dog, at least a dog as we know it.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a mixed breed mutt, a typical street or shelter dog, and it appeared to be dead

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_00]: or floating lifelessly.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: This brought me sadness to see.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I love dogs almost more than anything, and at that time, I was a vegan for my love

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: of animals.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't sense negative intentions, however.

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_00]: The beings standing next to me seemed to emit this comfort which consoled me.

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_00]: They then held up a hand in a murkabah shape which was also made of light, and the dog

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_00]: opened its eyes and began breathing, seemingly brought back to life.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_00]: The being then stopped and the dog returned to its limp lifeless state.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_00]: They then gestured at me as if to try this technique that they had demonstrated

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_00]: myself.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I did just that and I found with their emotional encouragement that I could do

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: the same thing.

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I brought the dog back to life by channeling the same light murkabah as

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_00]: the beings.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I held this for longer, and the dog remained alive, though still floating

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: when I was signaled to stop by the beings.

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I expressed my gratitude for this knowledge and I felt an embrace of positive

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_00]: emotions from the being in return before they said farewell, and I immediately

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_00]: came back to my body as I had begun the meditation.

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_00]: This experience was so real and so vivid that while I was grateful for it,

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_00]: considering it was exactly what I asked for, it was also a little scary.

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It felt like confirmation of what I had only believed was true about the

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: universe up to that point.

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I began backing off my attempts at channeling and I would only meditate to

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_00]: relieve stress.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I did this for a long period of time after that experience.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Business picked up which offered a distraction until

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: law changes in my state put a hold on that, and I found myself moving

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_00]: across the country due to unrelated bad memories and

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_00]: relationships in that state.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Eventually I found myself in Maine with two roommates that I was also

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_00]: working with, which is where my story picks up again.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_00]: These roommates had a small parrot that I loved very much.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_00]: We had a great relationship and by the end of my time living with these

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: people, I had a better relationship with this bird than they did.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But I digress.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_00]: At one point one of my roommates got home from the 24-hour Walmart at two or

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_00]: three in the morning with a load of groceries.

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I had been playing with the bird as I waited for her.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_00]: She began unloading groceries into the cabinet and the bird flew up to the

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_00]: top of one of the doors, peering down into the cabinet.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_00]: We were talking and while not paying attention she shut the door of

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: the cabinet with some force.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Needless to say the bird was not able to get out of the way.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_00]: We both freaked out and we helped the bird back to its cage where it

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: crawled to the bottom corner.

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_00]: We attempted to find a 24-hour emergency vet that would accept

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_00]: birds but there weren't any.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_00]: We decided to try and get some sleep so that we could see a proper vet

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_00]: immediately upon their opening in a few hours.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: She looked at the bird and said that it wasn't in good shape.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_00]: She helped him into his elevated bed and then retired to her room,

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_00]: understandably distraught.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_00]: I sat with the bird for a few minutes longer before remembering this

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_00]: energetic healing technique that I had seemingly learned years prior.

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I figured what the hell?

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It can't hurt and I began channeling as I did in my vision.

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Through my mind's eye I could envision the merkeba of light

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_00]: surrounding the bird as I held this position for 10 to 15 minutes.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_00]: The bird was no longer in pain when I opened my eyes so I decided to go get some sleep.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_00]: When we awoke the bird was back to new, squawking happily to see us

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_00]: as we checked on him as we usually did in the mornings.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: While I obviously can't fully attribute this recovery to the technique I performed,

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I am glad thinking back that I was able to at least do something

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_00]: instead of worrying about it until the morning.

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: While I haven't found a need for this technique since,

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_00]: luckily, I suppose, I'm glad to have had that experience where I gained it.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_00]: This seemingly positive affirmation led me to attempt channeling again

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: when my roommates who were in a relationship began to split.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I set out with the intention to learn something to help them through their emotional pain,

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_00]: considering that they had been together for over a decade.

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_00]: A few minutes into getting back into the groove of things,

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I recall coming too as my door was cracked open.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I saw one of my roommates with his friend peering in at me and laughing at my attempts.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_00]: This was the first and last time I attempted to use energetic healing to help another person.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I find myself at the end of a master's program,

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_00]: something I began from a desire to help others to heal naturally just before the start of the pandemic,

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_00]: which only bolstered my resolve to learn this ancient knowledge.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Needless to say, over the past three years,

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I have been ridiculed and mocked for my studies, my beliefs, and my attempts to help the world.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I also find myself again alone and in a new house of my own,

[00:10:35] [SPEAKER_00]: isolated as much as I was nearly a decade ago.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I believe I will begin channeling again, though I may open myself to whatever is out there

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_00]: instead of limiting myself to the positives.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_00]: If I'm going to be ridiculed for attempting to work positively and help others,

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_00]: then perhaps I will embrace the negative and see what knowledge I can gain from my own betterment

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_00]: instead. I hope that someone out there can connect with and benefit from what I've shared here.

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Whether it be attempting to use that healing technique or some advice on channeling,

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_00]: all I know for sure is that there is a lot more to reality than most people realize,

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_00]: and for that matter want to acknowledge. And it is accessible with the proper intention.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Terrorized for 18 months by alarming seaweed 550

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_01]: We moved into this house five and a half years ago when I was in my mid-twenties.

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It was around 18 months later that I began to experience

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: disturbing paranormal events that I cannot explain, no matter how much science I read.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I had never experienced anything paranormal before. I was a hardcore skeptic.

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd also like to note that I do not have a history with mental illness or any drug use.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_01]: The first incident was on a November night at around 11 o'clock.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I took a break from studying and got up to go to the bathroom.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_01]: After I did my business, a noise caught my attention.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_01]: There was a shampoo bottle about a third full between the taps on the sink.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a standard British porcelain sink close to the toilet.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_01]: But I was nowhere near close enough to make contact.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The bottle rocked far to the left and to the right, unnaturally,

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and repeated this motion about five times before it came to a standstill in its original position.

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't a small wobble. It was a slow, intentional, side-to-side motion.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The bottle should not have been able to rock so far to either side without falling over.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_01]: My bathroom is tiny, but like I said, I couldn't touch the bottle,

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_01]: let alone cause it to move the way it did.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_01]: The window was closed, there was no breeze, and nobody else was in the room.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_01]: I tried to replicate it another time by blowing hard on the bottle,

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_01]: flapping my arms and holding myself in the same position as when it happened,

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_01]: but I was never able to touch or move the bottle, even with generous leeway.

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_01]: In short, it wasn't me. It terrified me and ruined my night.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_01]: A couple of days later, I was in the same bathroom washing my hands at around the

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: same time at night. I experienced a sudden and intense sensation that something sinister was

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_01]: behind me, staring at me. I looked up at the mirror and couldn't see anything behind me,

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_01]: but I felt something there. I was too afraid to move.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I finished washing my hands after a minute or so, and when the feeling finally began to fade,

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I left the bathroom. This became a regular occurrence.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I felt it in the kitchen too, that something was there or watching me and attempting to interact

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_01]: with me. The invisible presence was somewhat imposing and dark. My partner didn't believe

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_01]: me when I told him about these incidents, and would usually go to bed before me,

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_01]: so he didn't witness them at first. I felt that this presence was a man,

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: so that's what I refer to him as. For a while, I thought it might have been the deceased elderly

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_01]: man who used to live there. He was placed in a care home at age 95 and was known as a nasty,

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: horrible old man. He passed away at some point, I'm not sure when, but it was either during

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_01]: the incidents or towards the end of them. Additionally, we had a carpet in the living

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_01]: room, and as these incidents increased in frequency, I began to hear something plucking

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_01]: at the carpet in the corner by my door. When I moved the curtain, there was nothing there,

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_01]: and the noise stopped. My partner occasionally stays up late, and one night he finally heard

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_01]: the noise. I didn't prompt him. I heard it and remained quiet until he picked up on it.

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I told him that was the noise I was hearing. He went to investigate and couldn't see anything.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_01]: This is what made him suspicious too. We have a rabbit, but checked on him. He was in his cage,

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_01]: eating in the next room while the noises happened. I lifted the floor to see if

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_01]: anything could have plucked the carpet from beneath the floorboards.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The floorboards are locked tight, and it would have been impossible to touch the

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: underside of the carpet. This may just be my mind manifesting fear, but I began to have

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: horrible dreams about an old man in a forest. He had beady, shiny black eyes,

[00:16:11] [SPEAKER_01]: a partially bald head, and white hair. These dreams were disturbing, and the man was far from

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_01]: ordinary. I felt like he was trying to toy with me before killing me. One night, I woke up

[00:16:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and caught a glimpse of black writing, scrawled all over the wall on the landing.

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_01]: When I blinked, it vanished. I was terrified and felt something on the landing or in the room.

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I had no history of sleep paralysis before moving to this house.

[00:16:44] [SPEAKER_01]: My partner told me he believed that whatever it was enjoyed scaring me,

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_01]: and was feeding off of my fear. Afterwards, I tried not to be afraid and to confront it,

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_01]: which worked to some degree. One of the worst incidents was when I knew the man was there.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_01]: He liked to stand over me, and sometimes would breathe on me while I was at the computer.

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I remember one night he was about a meter away from my computer chair,

[00:17:13] [SPEAKER_01]: trying to get my attention, and I ignored him. I forced myself to stay calm.

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Then he moved closer, and I heard a huff as though someone breathed heavily through their mouth,

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_01]: only inches from my ear. I took off my headphones and looked around, but the presence disappeared

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_01]: into the kitchen. I felt he wanted me to follow him, so I did. My attention was guided out of

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_01]: the window as though he was leading me there. I went to the window and looked out. There,

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw a shape out there that looked like an adult male, about six feet tall.

[00:17:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Wearing a gray hoodie and gloves, standing near my back fence as though he'd just climbed over.

[00:17:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Could I have been mistaken? Yeah, but I tried to run from the window and ended up freezing

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_01]: by the kitchen door. I could not move. I tried so hard to get away because I thought this

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_01]: man was going to break into my house and attack me. I don't know where the man was, but after about

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_01]: two minutes, I made it into the living room. A couple minutes later, I went back to check.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_01]: The man and the real man were both gone. A strange part of me believed the man chased

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_01]: the real figure off. I felt as though he'd tried to save me that night,

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_01]: and I became more sympathetic towards him. There was another incident, which could be

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_01]: explained otherwise, but my partner wasn't convinced. We had a small children's desk

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_01]: with two wooden chairs behind us. We stacked the chairs on the table while our daughter was

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_01]: upstairs. When we were on our computers, the chairs came crashing to the floor.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: They were stacked in a very secure way, and there was no way they should have just

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_01]: fallen over like that. Almost like the shampoo bottle, it just didn't make sense.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I often felt his presence in the kitchen, standing far too close to me.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_01]: One time, I felt a strong, icy gust of air blow down my neck.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I would sometimes hear him walking upstairs, and I sensed him go into my daughter's bedroom

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_01]: just to look at her. Thankfully, he never did anything to her.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: My partner also experienced things on several occasions, but still remains somewhat of a skeptic.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Eventually, everything stopped. After the man disappeared, we had issues with animal footsteps

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_01]: on the stairs. It sounded like a cat running up and down. The first time it happened,

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_01]: we couldn't see anything. The plucking noise continued. Around this time,

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: our rabbit for some reason jumped out of his cage, and we had at least two or three incidents where

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_01]: he bolted up the stairs and went into our bedroom. Running around like that was not normal for him.

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, we blamed him and locked his cage tightly so he couldn't escape,

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_01]: but the noises continued. My ex was awoken by the noises one night and went to investigate.

[00:20:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Only to find our rabbit in his cage, all while the mysterious noises continued.

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_01]: These incidents have stopped for quite some time now. The house finally feels at peace,

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_01]: but that was a deeply terrifying event that actually ruined my life.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Few things are worse than feeling unsafe in your own home at night.

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Different kind of rock by Joe. You guys have previously spoken about haunted or possessed

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_00]: objects in areas with significant history, and I feel like this fits here.

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Myself and my fiance recently moved to Tasmania, and we were doing a lovely hike to a remote

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_00]: beach along a pristine coastline. The area in which we were hiking has a large convict history

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and a terrible history of manslaughter of our indigenous people.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Our hike to the beach was amazing. Blue skies, views from the sea cliffs, whale watching and

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_00]: seal watching, and a secluded beach. What more could you want?

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The hike back was not so great. I'd like to preface this by saying, when I'm hiking,

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I will always end up picking things up, like sticks, rocks, fallen off flowers.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_00]: But this time, it felt different. We were about halfway on our return back,

[00:22:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and I picked up this rock just to observe it. I was steadily walking behind my fiance,

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_00]: and after one minute of holding this rock, I was getting these intense feelings that I

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: should throw it at her. These then changed into hitting her in the back of the head with it.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_00]: This was when I started to get a bit scared, but didn't really think anything of it. I just threw

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: the rock out of my hand when the feeling got more intense and was beckoning me to bludgeon her.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_00]: As soon as I threw the rock, the intense feelings stopped, and everything was back to normal.

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I felt like crap for thinking those things in the first place though.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Could it be that the rock had some kind of spirit attached to it,

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_00]: and had been used previously to hit someone violently? I guess I'll never know.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I really want to know.

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[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I was sleeping in her room that night, and my brother was sleeping in the living room alone.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_01]: We hit the hay, but there was no way I was falling asleep in this unfamiliar house.

[00:25:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I tossed and turned before finally mustering up the courage to make a speedwalk to the bathroom.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I made it safely there and did my business.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_01]: When you open the bathroom door, there is a hallway both to the right and left.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_01]: If you walked left, you would end up in the living room,

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_01]: but if you walked right and took about three steps, my cousin's bedroom door would be on the right,

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_01]: and on the left there would be another little hallway leading to the master bedroom.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: When I was finished, I went to open the door, and a literal chill ran down my spine.

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The house went silent, completely silent.

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like time itself stopped.

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I stood there, hand glued to the door handle, trying to hear any normal house noises,

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: but there was nothing, not even the wind outside.

[00:26:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It felt like a predator was around and everything went quiet.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I felt as if I wasn't alone anymore.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_01]: There was a nervous tingling in my stomach, and a deep sadness hit me.

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know anything about the paranormal world yet,

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_01]: so this feeling was completely foreign and very scary for a nine-year-old me.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I've since felt this feeling a handful of times, but it's always a little different.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_01]: There's always a tingling in my stomach, but it's followed by different emotions.

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Feeling this new presence, I also had a wave of panic.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Not for myself, but for my four-year-old cousin sleeping alone in her room.

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I broke out of my trance, turned the door handle, and opened the door.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I leaned out to look down the hallway before I stepped out.

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Right as I peeked out, a young tiny boy around my cousin's age stepped out from

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_01]: the hallway leading to the master bedroom.

[00:27:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I was frozen, not from fear but from shock.

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't believe how or why this child was inside the house.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He was almost transparent, pale with a round baby face and short black hair.

[00:27:42] [SPEAKER_01]: He had chubby cheeks, and his eyebrows were furrowed with a heartbreaking expression.

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_01]: He was wearing a dark blue t-shirt with an indistinguishable print.

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't notice what kind of pants he was wearing.

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_01]: His movements were smooth, like he was floating.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_01]: His eyes were unnaturally big and swollen, like he had cried for hours.

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_01]: It looked like he had huge pupils, but they were just deep brown eyes.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I stood there frozen while he quickly stopped, turned to acknowledge me,

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_01]: then walked straight through my cousin's door.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The whole experience lasted probably around 10 to 15 seconds.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Only when he was gone did I jump into action, fearing something bad would happen to my cousin.

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I ran and flung the door open, but I only saw her sitting up looking at me.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: I got back in bed with her and held her close the whole night to comfort both of us.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: The next day, with the baptism and the activities, I almost forgot about the incident.

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing out of the ordinary happened at the baptism, and everything went great.

[00:28:57] [SPEAKER_01]: My mother and grandmother weren't at the baptism because they were stuck on the highway.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_01]: They arrived shortly after we got back to the house to celebrate.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_01]: My mom's yellow car pulled up to the driveway.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_01]: My aunt was mad at my grandmother for missing the baptism.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They started yelling and screaming.

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_01]: My mother asked my brother and me to pack our things, so we did.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_01]: We said our goodbyes, got in the car, and started driving.

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_01]: On the way home, my brother asked out of the blue,

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_01]: why does auntie have so many people over at night?

[00:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: My mom frowned and asked, what do you mean?

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: He replied, last night when everyone was sleeping,

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I saw people walking around in the living room, but they weren't actually walking.

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like they were floating.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Before I could even say anything about what I saw, my grandmother said,

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_01]: that's because auntie attracts all the lost spirits, so she'll be able to see the future.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_01]: In shock, I looked at my mom for some kind of sign my grandmother was talking nonsense.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_01]: But she said, it's true, ghosts are real, but you should never do what auntie is doing.

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she'll be able to see glimpses of the future, but it comes with a great price.

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_01]: For her to keep seeing the future, she is offering up her own energy.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Some ghosts are good in kind and will only take what is necessary to stay connected with

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_01]: the living world, but some are evil and will keep draining you of energy until you have none left.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_01]: My mind was blown. My grandmother also told us that at the age of 13,

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_01]: you're closest to the spirit world. It made sense my brother could see all the other spirits,

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_01]: and I only saw the boy. She said we can communicate with spirits because we are

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_01]: one eighth Romanian, which apparently gives us the ability to see, feel or hear both the living

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_01]: and the dead. When her father was alive, he would offer animal blood and leave it outside

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_01]: his house for protection. She told us that if we ever needed protection, we could simply light

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_01]: a candle and sleep with it lit because the fire would keep the spirits away.

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Then my mother added, but just so you know, if it ever gets too much, tell them to leave.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Just yell, leave me alone and they'll do it. I've never seen a ghost like I did that night

[00:31:38] [SPEAKER_01]: again, but I have felt their presence. I'm naturally really interested in the paranormal

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_01]: world, and I've picked up some witchcraft to keep loved ones and myself protected against

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_01]: evil spirits. Now you may wonder how my aunt could see the future, and so did I.

[00:31:58] [SPEAKER_01]: My mom told me that my aunt once had a vision of me and my brother dying in a red car.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_01]: My mom confessed that around the same time she had been looking at buying a red car but never did.

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_01]: My aunt also sees visions of the future when she sleeps,

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_01]: an ability she's either gifted or cursed with, depending on who you ask.

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_01]: For her to see these visions, she needs to attract a lot of spirits and feed them almost all of

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_01]: her energy. I can't tell you what happens if she runs out of energy to give because I never

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_01]: asked, and I never plan on following in her footsteps. So yeah, that's my family.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_01]: My aunt can see the future. My mother would know a person and their desires before even speaking to

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_01]: them, and my grandmother could see how people died. My grandmother and I weren't ever close

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_01]: when I was young. At the time, I remember being frightened of her. She was a stubborn,

[00:33:00] [SPEAKER_01]: fierce woman who smoked a pack of cigarettes a day, even with her life-threatening COPD.

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_01]: She has since passed. She died when she was 60 years old. That was really tough.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_01]: I know she didn't stay down here among the living because I've never felt her.

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I hope she passed on to somewhere beautiful.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_00]: My Supernatural Story by Tommy

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I have never seen them, but I know that my house is haunted. There have been two separate incidents

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_00]: with the supernatural in my room alone. The first one was from when I was 8 or 9,

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_00]: having horrible nightmares. I used to stare at my walls of my room most nights to get to sleep.

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_00]: One night my vision went dark. I heard something hit the wall. It turned out to be

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_00]: my favorite bunny plushie. After a few minutes of trying to get to sleep, my covers were then

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_00]: ripped completely off of my bed and my pillow was pulled out from under my head.

[00:34:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Years have gone by without incident. I'm now 16 and still living with my parents.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, when I would clean my room, I did what any other kid would do and I just pushed all the

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_00]: stuff on my floor to the sides of my room. The bunny plushie from earlier in this story

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_00]: ended up under a huge pile of clothes and some random stuff. I went out of my room for less

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_00]: than 5 minutes and when I came back, the plushie was now on my bed. It was facing the door.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I asked everybody in the house if they knew anything about it

[00:35:02] [SPEAKER_00]: and nobody was to blame. I don't know if this is scary enough to go on the podcast,

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: but it did concern the living crap out of my mother.

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_01]: We've got to talk about that strange rock story.

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_01]: What's up?

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_01]: My first thought was admittedly like, okay maybe he just had an intrusive thought.

[00:35:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Totally normal.

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, as disturbing as it was, you're right. It's completely normal.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Things that we would never want to happen, just playing out in our minds for whatever

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_00]: reason, I don't know. It happens to everybody.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's probably a combination of the brain being extremely complex and unpredictable

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and then I'm sure there's something to do with stress triggers.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sort of like negative hyper fixations. We dread what we don't want to happen,

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_00]: but then that very thing completely takes over your thoughts.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it becomes like this paradox by making those thoughts become more persistent.

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It manifests. Totally manifests.

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Another thing though, because we can't say for sure that's all it was,

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_01]: is that the author could have experienced psychometry,

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_01]: which for those who might not be aware is the ability to receive the history of an object

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_01]: just by touching it.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I've heard about this on another podcast.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Objects can basically absorb and retain energy from their surroundings

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and from the people who have come in contact with them.

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah. It seems similar to the sixth sense intuition stuff like

[00:36:47] [SPEAKER_01]: when you can feel the energy shift in a room or immediately pick up on whether or not

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_01]: a complete stranger is a good or bad person.

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Even if it seems baseless and you can't put it into words, you just kind of know.

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if psychometry is one of those things where you need to be gifted in order to see

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_00]: an object's past or if the object itself can harness the energy and anybody would be able

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_00]: to pick up on it.

[00:37:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to think it's the second one, but I think we'd hear more about it.

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_01]: There would be so much more like sideshow attractions everywhere,

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_01]: pay $5 to touch a bowling ball or something.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_01]: You can relive the international bowling championship from 1987 or whatever.

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a clue would be definitely less fun to play if all you had to do was run around and

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_00]: touch random things until a murder scene projects into your brain.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wouldn't touch any cucumbers though.

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Unless you're into that.

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_00]: So I ended up not getting the SP-404 even though there couldn't have been a clearer

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_00]: sign that I was supposed to.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, that synchronicity from last night, that was wild.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_01]: People were probably like this.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So last night at 11-11 exactly, you texted me a picture of an SP-404

[00:38:09] [SPEAKER_01]: audio sampler in your car ready to click by, completely unprompted.

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But at that exact moment, near coincidence or not, I was talking about the SP-404 with a friend

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_01]: hundreds of miles away from you.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you would have known.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And we hadn't talked about it in such a long time either.

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_00]: When you replied with a bunch of gibberish and all cat, I was thinking it's not that

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_00]: exciting but when you told me about the conversation that you were having,

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_00]: it was pretty crazy.

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it was 11-11.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even, basically what happened was I was like, he's going to love this.

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm about to buy one.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_00]: So I basically took a picture of my shopping cart to send to you.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And when I did that, I looked at my time and it was 11-11 right then.

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I got to send it to him.

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that could have been the sign.

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It hasn't been on my mind in forever though either.

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I was just talking about music gear and my friend hadn't seen one before.

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And right as I pulled out my phone to look up a picture of it,

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_01]: boom, I got your text and started freaking out.

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, dude, look!

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was kind of confused but then he was like, wait, your friend sent you that picture just now

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_01]: and we had like this whoa dude moment.

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty cool.

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It made her night.

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, on my end it was the 11-11 thing.

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_00]: It really freaked me out.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Clock's always stuck telling 11-11.

[00:39:26] [SPEAKER_00]: At 3.32.

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_00]: If you know, you know.

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess we should explain our weird history with the SP-404 though

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and what it even is for some of the listeners.

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, probably be a good idea.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So it all started like a decade ago at least.

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And the SP-404 is this cool shiny piece of equipment that some of our favorite producers

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_01]: would use to chop up loops and samples to make these cool raw organic beats.

[00:39:53] [SPEAKER_01]: MF Doom, J Dilla.

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Mad Lib.

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Mad Lib, yeah.

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_00]: We saw it as the ultimate end goal but now it's just become a meme for us at this point.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll never get one.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I know, we can't add principle, we can't.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Even though we can finally afford to buy one, there's something fun about never actually doing it.

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Just continuing the running gag, talking about it like it's some

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_01]: relic that will forever be out of reach.

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah because when we first started talking about it, we didn't have a penny to our names.

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So it really was out of reach.

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and I just didn't buy it out of principle just to keep it going but also

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_00]: it's one of those things where you would buy it and you'd use it for a little bit

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_00]: and then it would just sit in the closet forever and I just can't do that anymore.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Like everything else.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was so close.

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I was so close.

[00:40:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I'm good with just my MIDI keyboard with some pads and knobs and that's it.

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway yeah, you were so close to getting it.

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah to be fair, I've had it in my cart many times ready to press buy

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_00]: but I always talk myself out of it.

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah me too.

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Originally I was salivating for the 303 because I saw this clip of Madlib years and years ago

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_00]: making a beat on it in real time and I didn't even know there was a 404.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_01]: I know which one you're talking about that may have came out before the 404 was released,

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not too sure but probably yeah the boss samplers are all so legendary.

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Odd Nosedome used the 202 on the first Cloud Dead album which is still pretty insane to me.

[00:41:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so what possessed you to actually almost buy it this time around?

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have like some creative inspiration cooking up in your mind?

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Not even which makes it even worse.

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm taking a tablet on tour with me this time instead of my laptop and looking around this

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_00]: bulky charger for the let's not meet live shows but I needed to trigger sounds and music

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: which I used my laptop for.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of like renting a tank just to commute to work.

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly right, yeah.

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_01]: The 404 it would do a great job but it's definitely overkill

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_01]: unless you're trying to do a live hip hop set into the year routine.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's just another thing that we'll talk about doing and end up never bringing to pass.

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're just dreaming out loud.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just decided to get an aux chord for my iPad mini and just use that to trigger

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_00]: samples that easy.

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_01]: There you go efficient, I love it.

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_01]: But I still have faith that we'll eventually make the odd trail zp one day even if we have to like

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_01]: buy beats on beat stars at some 16 year old made with fruity loops

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_01]: but I refuse to, we both make beats there's no reason to use other people's stuff.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:42:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I guess we should probably talk about at least one more paranormal story.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's probably a good idea.

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_01]: All things considered.

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I like the one that you read about the blue boy walking down the hallway and through the

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_00]: bedroom door.

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was a good one.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea how I'd be able to handle seeing something like that at the age of nine.

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I would have probably brushed it off but then of course then we have his brother mentioning

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_01]: that he saw people floating around inside their aunt's house too.

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and he brought it up before the author even mentioned anything about what they had seen.

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Right it wasn't just some oh yeah me too thing that kids do.

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_00]: To be fair adults do that too which is so weird to me.

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I know right like I can understand lying to like spare someone's feelings or something

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_01]: which I've recently found out is called an ethical lie so don't feel bad about

[00:43:19] [SPEAKER_01]: complimenting your children's artwork but lying to fit in as an adult is definitely

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_01]: weird to me.

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You gotta keep it 100.

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep you gotta keep it 100.

[00:43:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Always always always.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Well uh we trail off more than we usually do with all the talk about the sp4 for it's

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_00]: probably time to wrap it up.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah it's all good we touched on some paranormal stuff at least we save our

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_00]: ramblings for the very end of the show.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes optional bonus content I'm grateful for the people who don't just immediately turn

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_00]: the show off after the last story.

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_01]: That's my favorite part of the show.

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_01]: No no no you're my favorite part of the show.

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Well you're my favorite person in the world.

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Really?

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Top five for sure.

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_01]: At least top 10.

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I can work with that.

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Sick.

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks everybody for listening.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Make sure to send your stories to stories at oddtrails.com if you want to hear more

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[00:44:19] [SPEAKER_00]: the new episodes of my other podcasts like let's not meet in the old time radio cast

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_00]: plus I just released a new podcast called cryptic encounters where I'm interviewing

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_00]: folks from all over the world about things like et encounters, astral projection, witchcraft

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_00]: all kinds of other supernatural topics I think you guys will like it.

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It's cryptic encounters you can get that at crypticcountypodcasts.com

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_00]: or wherever you get your podcasts.

[00:44:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey everybody stay safe.

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_00]: He's out.

[00:45:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Don't let the ghosts and the ghouls disturb you, darling.