Episode 155: Creepy Experiences at a Resident Facility

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[00:00:10] Forget facts. Forget logic. Forget everything that seems real. You just trust. Believe.

[00:00:58] Creepy Experiences at a Resident Facility by Creepy Cryptid 1969. I worked as a licensed nursing

[00:01:07] assistant, or LNA, for this nice resident facility in Concord, New Hampshire. The first year I worked

[00:01:15] there I volunteered to work a night shift after a long day shift because we were short-staffed. After

[00:01:21] all the residents went to bed, all the LNAs gathered on the floor lounge to get our books done and up

[00:01:28] to date. We were in there for quite a while when a light went off at the end of the hall. Knowing that

[00:01:35] this resident likely needed the restroom, I rushed to her side. When I entered, I saw a black floating

[00:01:42] mist above her. She was hysterical, pointing at the mist and saying that it was here to get her.

[00:01:50] I'm not a religious person, but I wanted to calm her and I knew I could not acknowledge the mist above her.

[00:01:58] It's not unusual for these kinds of strange things to happen, in these types of facilities at least.

[00:02:05] I turned off the light and I held her hand. We prayed. The mist vanished. I calmed her down

[00:02:13] and stayed with her until she went back to sleep. I creeped out of her room and went back to the lounge.

[00:02:20] I reported what I saw to the others, but we cannot report it in our books.

[00:02:26] I found out that this mist had been seen in several rooms on the night shift for weeks.

[00:02:34] For another experience, I was working with a night shift LNA that volunteered to work the day shift on my floor.

[00:02:42] I was friends with him outside of work as we were both riders. It was getting to the end of our shift

[00:02:49] and we had brought our residents to the bathroom and readied them for the activities that took place

[00:02:55] in the basement where most of the administration was located. The other LNA and I brought our last

[00:03:01] residents to the activity and we were walking back to the elevator. We weren't walking the stairs,

[00:03:08] even though it was just one flight up. It was a long day. We had someone walk out of the bathroom

[00:03:14] ahead of us and went around the corner to the elevator. I holler, hey, hold the elevator.

[00:03:21] We were only seconds behind this person. We turned the corner and there was no one there.

[00:03:28] The other LNA and I just looked at each other. There was no place that this person could have gone.

[00:03:35] It was a dead end. I asked if I was going crazy and did they see that person? The other LNA agreed.

[00:03:45] Where did they go? It took forever for these elevators to go from floor to floor and at this

[00:03:51] time of day there were a ton of visitors and changes of shifts. The elevator would take longer

[00:03:58] to get down to the basement at this time of day. One of our residents turned 100 years old and she

[00:04:05] had called me in to read a letter she received from the President of the United States. This was

[00:04:11] George W. Bush at the time. I had a few days off from work. When I returned, I heard the awful news

[00:04:18] that she had left us in her sleep. The nurse on duty on that floor in our staff meeting read a note

[00:04:25] that her alarm light kept going off. Just then, the panel showed a light going off in that room.

[00:04:34] I thought that it was the roommate. I volunteered to go see what she needed. I entered the room and the

[00:04:40] roommate was nowhere to be found. The light was coming from the empty bed of the resident that

[00:04:46] had just passed. I shut it off, thinking that it was a fluke. After that, it seemed to keep going

[00:04:54] off minutes after you would shut it off. I volunteered to go to the empty top floor where we kept extra

[00:05:02] supplies to get a new plug. I came back down and I replaced the plug. But before I left the room,

[00:05:09] the light went off again. I removed the plug but forgot the fail-safe that if you remove the plug for

[00:05:17] any length of time, the light would go off. Just then, I asked the nurse, did anyone leave the window

[00:05:24] open after she passed? The nurse looked at the note. No, no one did that. It's not unusual that after

[00:05:32] passing in a residential facility, you opened the window. It's believed that it allows the spirit of

[00:05:39] the deceased to escape. I reattached the plug and opened the window. At the end of my shift, I closed

[00:05:46] it. The light never went off for the rest of my shift after I opened the window. The next day,

[00:05:54] there were no reports of that light going off. Gettysburg Hotel by 4th Degree Night.

[00:06:25] Back in 2020, I decided to take my family on a trip to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.

[00:06:31] I love history and love reading everything about the Civil War. Now, Gettysburg is supposed to be a

[00:06:38] very haunted place, so you would expect to see things out in the battlefield, cemeteries, and old buildings.

[00:06:46] The following, though, happened at our hotel. Upon checking in, I asked the staff about laundry

[00:06:53] facilities, as we didn't arrive directly to Gettysburg, but landed in Richmond and visited

[00:06:59] a bunch of battlefields along the way. I tend to pack light, so by the time we arrived in Gettysburg,

[00:07:05] we needed to wash some clothes. This evening, we got back to our hotel rather late. I had asked the

[00:07:12] hotel if it was still okay to do laundry, as there was a sign that said no laundry after, I think,

[00:07:18] 8pm or something. The woman at the front desk said it was fine, because there was no one staying in

[00:07:24] the rooms near the laundry room. I had to run back to the room to gather my laundry and then back to

[00:07:31] the front desk, because I ran out of quarters. So by the time I started laundry, it was well past 9pm.

[00:07:39] The hotel only had one washer and dryer, so rather than running back over to my room,

[00:07:45] I was looking up things to do the next day and looking at my phone watching videos.

[00:07:50] I had my body facing the washer and dryer, so off to my left-hand side was the interior hallway

[00:07:57] that led to the other rooms and the double doors to the outside.

[00:08:02] The noise from the washer was a bit loud when you were in the room, so when I also had my clothes in

[00:08:08] the dryer, it was even louder. I was only paying attention to my phone, not looking down the hallway.

[00:08:15] However, I heard a door open and close. I didn't look, and just assumed someone was in the hallway.

[00:08:25] In my peripheral vision, I saw a shadow walking towards me at the very end of the other hallway,

[00:08:32] so I poked my head up and turned to look down the hallway, totally expecting to see another guest

[00:08:38] or hotel employee. I turned and saw that there was no one there. I just assumed maybe they went into a

[00:08:47] room, but I remembered the hotel staff telling me no one was staying near the laundry room.

[00:08:54] Everybody was in the more central part of the hotel. You also needed a hotel keycard to get in

[00:09:00] from the outside, so it wouldn't have been a random person off the street. I turn and go back to looking

[00:09:08] at my phone, facing the washer and dryer. A few minutes later, I heard a loud boom from down the hallway.

[00:09:16] It sounded like metal poles falling over or something. I jumped up and looked down the hallway,

[00:09:24] but again saw nothing. As I started transferring some laundry into a bag, I saw someone down the

[00:09:32] hallway again, so I turned to get a better look, and the lights were dim, and no one was there.

[00:09:40] I started to feel very uneasy, like someone was staring at me. To make matters worse,

[00:09:48] I had to wait 30 more minutes for this load to finish. I started facing the hallway rather than

[00:09:54] the washer and dryer. I can't tell if my eyes are playing tricks on me, maybe a little tired from

[00:10:01] the trip or what, but I keep expecting someone to pop out or jump out and attack me. I eventually

[00:10:09] walk out into the hallway to make sure no one was there. I looked around and it's just an empty

[00:10:15] hallway, and the outer doors leading to this part of the hotel are closed. As soon as the last of my

[00:10:23] laundry finished drying, I packed it all up in another bag and got out of there as quickly as I

[00:10:29] could. Now that all the machines are off and I can hear clearly, just as I get to the door leading to

[00:10:37] the outside, I hear footsteps. I turned, thinking someone was walking up on me, but again, nothing.

[00:10:49] I left that part of the hotel and made it back to my room. My wife looked at me with an expression,

[00:10:55] begging to know what just happened to me. All I said was, well, I totally believe all these stories

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[00:12:53] I just had the bejesus scared out of me the other night by blonde damn bition. I'm still trying to process

[00:13:02] something that happened to me a few nights ago. I had woken up hungry and decided to get a bowl of cereal.

[00:13:09] It was about 2 or 3 a.m. My husband and I live with my mother because she has severe short-term memory loss.

[00:13:17] While she can function fine day to day, she can't live by herself because she can't remember to pay bills

[00:13:24] and manage other daily responsibilities. I moved in about 8 years ago while my dad was still alive.

[00:13:32] He had dementia, and they both needed our help. He passed in 2022, but we stayed on. By that time,

[00:13:41] my mom started having her own issues. The house is two stories. When you're in the living room facing

[00:13:47] the kitchen, which is the direction the furniture is all facing, the stairs to the second floor are on

[00:13:54] the right. I was sitting in the recliner eating my cereal and watching some TV when I heard my mother

[00:14:00] call my name plain as day. It sounded like she was standing on the second story landing, which is out

[00:14:08] of sight unless you walk to the foot of the stairs. Her hearing wasn't great, so I called back kind of

[00:14:15] loudly. Yeah? I wasn't worried about waking up my husband because our bedroom was at the very end

[00:14:22] of the hall. The door was closed, and he slept with earphones in. He falls asleep listening to videos on

[00:14:30] YouTube because, if he doesn't, every little sound will wake him up. I also wasn't alarmed by the idea

[00:14:38] of my mom being up this late or, I guess, this early. My husband got her a puppy two years ago, and while

[00:14:45] he's all of our dog, he's fiercely attached to her, and he sleeps with her. She often gets up in the

[00:14:52] middle of the night to take him outside because, since she no longer works or keeps a strict schedule,

[00:14:58] her sleeping patterns can be irregular. After calling back to her and not getting an answer,

[00:15:05] I called again louder. When I still didn't hear anything, I got up and I walked to the foot of the

[00:15:11] stairs, thinking she just couldn't hear me. She wasn't there. The door was shut, which was unusual

[00:15:19] because she usually leaves it cracked to let her cats, who sleep in her room as well, come out to access

[00:15:25] their litter boxes. I walked upstairs and opened her door. Her room was pitch dark. She was in bed.

[00:15:33] I woke her up when I opened the door. She sat part of the way up. I thought that she had laid back

[00:15:41] down, so I asked, what did you need? Her response made it clear that she hadn't been up recently.

[00:15:48] She was slurring and seemed confused, and I realized I had woken her up out of a deep sleep.

[00:15:56] Even the dog had been asleep because every time she got up, he got up with her. If she had been in the

[00:16:03] hall recently, so would he. That's when I realized she hadn't been the one to call my name. It couldn't

[00:16:10] have been my husband either. His voice is deep and could never be mistaken for hers. But I'm telling

[00:16:17] you, this was her voice. I did not imagine it. It was clear and fairly loud, just saying,

[00:16:26] Heather. My cat Snow was downstairs with me at the time. She had been grooming herself. But when the

[00:16:34] voice called out to me, she stopped and looked up the stairs towards the voice. That further proved

[00:16:40] to me that it wasn't just in my head. After going back downstairs, scared, I tried distracting myself

[00:16:48] with watching TV again. I then heard what sounded like music faintly, as if a TV upstairs was on.

[00:16:56] But my mom's TV was off, and the one in my bedroom wasn't on either. My cats seemed scared as well.

[00:17:05] I don't know what it was. I grew up in this house, and although I've been hypersensitive to the

[00:17:12] paranormal for a long time, I've never had anything really happen here. As an empath, I can sense

[00:17:19] negative spirits or energy, but I've never felt anything here. All my experiences have occurred

[00:17:26] away from this house. The only thing that comes close is when my dad was alive and deep in his

[00:17:34] dementia. He always talked about seeing people here, nothing bad, but in particular, a man that he

[00:17:40] called Captain X. My dad said that Captain X was 10 feet tall and wore a top hat or something.

[00:17:48] My dad never seemed afraid of him, so my mom, husband, and I dismissed his hallucinations,

[00:17:55] which are a known symptom of his type of dementia. But years ago, my husband did see a shadow of a very

[00:18:03] tall figure. I thought that he was imagining it or sleepy, until it happened to me too.

[00:18:09] One night, around 3am, I was in our room, and I saw it on the wall. I didn't feel in danger,

[00:18:17] but I do remember the outline of the hat. It didn't last long. I woke my husband up, freaked out,

[00:18:25] and he just said, that's Captain X. He's harmless. Go back to sleep. Other than that,

[00:18:33] and a time when my dad's electronic adding machine went off by itself, even though it was unplugged,

[00:18:39] nothing else happened here. At least, nothing negative.

[00:18:43] My UFO Experience in 2007 by Nico

[00:19:06] I went to an alternative high school. I almost dropped out, so I was offered the chance to make

[00:19:12] up credits by going to a wilderness program, where we tended to chickens and a garden,

[00:19:17] and went on an annual 10-day camping trip.

[00:19:21] In 2007, we went to the Sierra Nevada Mountains.

[00:19:26] Like most who share their stories, I feel stupid and skeptical to even recount it.

[00:19:33] But I've had aliens on the brain lately, and I've been into the creepy and occult since I was a kid.

[00:19:40] Incident 1

[00:19:42] I can't recall exactly what time of the year it was, but it must have been just before summer break.

[00:19:48] Let's say it was around May or June.

[00:19:52] On one of the first nights, we stood around a campfire and reflected on the trip so far.

[00:19:58] I believe I was one of the only, if not the only, person who caught what happened.

[00:20:04] We were in a valley next to a small river, surrounded by mountains.

[00:20:09] One of the mountains to the west of the campsite completely lit up with blue light,

[00:20:14] as if a blue studio light large enough to light the entire mountainside flashed for a second.

[00:20:21] There was no rain, no lightning, or a storm.

[00:20:25] The weather had been fairly sunny and clear.

[00:20:29] Incident 2

[00:20:31] Nearing the end of the trip, we'd moved to another area to camp for the evening,

[00:20:36] and everyone was laid out in their sleeping bags.

[00:20:40] I've never been a good sleeper, chronic insomnia since childhood,

[00:20:45] so I laid in silence while most others snoozed, staring up at the clear, star-filled sky.

[00:20:53] I noticed the starry sky being blacked out by something that looked about the size of a frisbee.

[00:20:59] It appeared to be a very thin, lightweight disk that hovered and vibrated slightly,

[00:21:05] like the surface tension of a leaf on top of water.

[00:21:09] It would stay stationary in one spot for 10 to 20 seconds,

[00:21:14] before rapidly zipping to another spot in the sky.

[00:21:19] It seemed to be tracing a pattern, repeating this process a few times,

[00:21:24] before finally zooming off at a rapid speed into the sky and disappearing.

[00:21:30] I just watched a documentary about the Nimitz and USS Roosevelt sightings,

[00:21:36] and it sparked a memory.

[00:21:38] The way the crafts in the Nimitz footage were described,

[00:21:41] as hovering stationary before zipping off at high speeds to another stationary position,

[00:21:47] was the same exact behavior I saw in 2007.

[00:21:52] I'm highly skeptical.

[00:21:54] I'm more inclined to believe that the government does in fact have

[00:21:58] extremely advanced drone technology.

[00:22:01] But the dreamer in me wants to believe that it's aliens.

[00:22:06] I asked my mother if she'd ever seen a UFO,

[00:22:09] and she described exactly the same behavior in a sighting she had seen a few years ago,

[00:22:15] right here in our backyard in Northern California.

[00:22:19] Hovering as if observing,

[00:22:22] zipping to another spot,

[00:22:24] repeating the process, and so on,

[00:22:26] until zooming away.

[00:22:29] I'm a healthy mix of doubtful and hopeful

[00:22:32] that there are other forms of life out there.

[00:22:35] I know what I saw,

[00:22:37] and those two events in 2007 will always stick with me.

[00:22:42] I just find it strange that so many people have seen crafts,

[00:22:47] whether alien or made by the government,

[00:22:50] with the same movement patterns.

[00:22:52] Thanks for reading.

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[00:24:43] My Experience in Washington's Cascade Mountains

[00:24:47] by Jack Spratt90

[00:24:49] I have always loved the outdoors.

[00:24:53] I was fortunate enough to be born

[00:24:56] in the Great Pacific Northwest,

[00:24:58] specifically the Western Washington Cascades.

[00:25:01] My father and I spent much of my early years

[00:25:04] exploring the mountains fishing and hunting.

[00:25:07] There are parts of the Cascades

[00:25:09] that I know like the back of my hand.

[00:25:11] One of those places is called Goblin Creek,

[00:25:15] located up off of Highway 2.

[00:25:18] When I was a kid,

[00:25:20] we would drive up there to fish, shoot,

[00:25:22] or collect a specific type of rock.

[00:25:25] When cut in half and polished,

[00:25:27] these rocks would resemble a scenic view

[00:25:30] of mountains from within a cave.

[00:25:32] I don't recall the true name of these stones.

[00:25:35] We just called them picture rocks.

[00:25:38] My father's friend and neighbor

[00:25:40] owned an art gallery and mineral shop

[00:25:43] that used to be a church.

[00:25:44] If you've ever driven through startup

[00:25:47] on your way from Sultan to Gold Bear

[00:25:49] on Highway 2,

[00:25:51] you might remember seeing a robot sculpture

[00:25:53] outside the shop.

[00:25:55] My dad built that.

[00:25:58] This is where we sold the stones

[00:26:00] for about $2 a pound.

[00:26:02] It was lucrative revenue for a preteen.

[00:26:06] We walked from the creek,

[00:26:08] where we harvested these rocks,

[00:26:10] to the dirt road,

[00:26:11] which wasn't particularly long.

[00:26:13] But it was long enough

[00:26:15] that you could potentially get lost

[00:26:16] if you didn't know your way.

[00:26:19] In all the years that we spent at this creek,

[00:26:22] I only ever saw two other people out there.

[00:26:27] One was a game warden,

[00:26:29] who heard the gunshots from our target practice

[00:26:31] and tracked us down to ensure that everything was okay,

[00:26:34] and the other person,

[00:26:36] well, they're the subject of this story.

[00:26:39] When I was about 14,

[00:26:41] I distinctly remember

[00:26:42] hauling a backpack full of rocks

[00:26:45] up from the creek

[00:26:46] to my dad's truck.

[00:26:48] Along the way,

[00:26:49] I encountered a man

[00:26:50] who looked to be about 30 years old.

[00:26:53] We both seemed surprised

[00:26:54] to see someone else

[00:26:55] in this remote section of the mountains.

[00:26:58] As I got closer to him,

[00:27:00] he was heading down to the creek

[00:27:02] while I was heading up the road.

[00:27:04] He seemed increasingly startled,

[00:27:06] almost as if he were seeing a ghost.

[00:27:09] He didn't say anything as I passed.

[00:27:11] He just stared at me

[00:27:14] like he was trying to figure out

[00:27:16] how to ask me something.

[00:27:18] After passing him,

[00:27:19] I remember thinking

[00:27:20] how much this guy looked like

[00:27:22] he could be in my family.

[00:27:24] The resemblance was uncanny.

[00:27:27] I continued up to the truck,

[00:27:29] dumped my load of rocks,

[00:27:31] and headed back down to the creek

[00:27:32] to meet my dad.

[00:27:34] When I arrived,

[00:27:35] I told him about the encounter

[00:27:36] and asked if he had seen the man.

[00:27:39] He said that he hadn't.

[00:27:40] The encounter stuck with me,

[00:27:42] vividly,

[00:27:43] over the years.

[00:27:46] Last year,

[00:27:47] I was visiting my family,

[00:27:48] and I decided to head to Goblin Creek

[00:27:50] for nostalgic purposes.

[00:27:52] It had been about 15 years

[00:27:54] since I had last been there.

[00:27:56] Along the way,

[00:27:57] I found out that that road

[00:27:58] had washed out years before.

[00:28:00] But luckily,

[00:28:01] I knew of another way,

[00:28:03] up Jack Pass.

[00:28:05] I found the dirt road,

[00:28:07] parked where my dad used to park,

[00:28:09] and started walking

[00:28:10] through the woods

[00:28:11] down to the creek.

[00:28:12] Along the way,

[00:28:13] I saw something

[00:28:14] that shook me to my core.

[00:28:16] About halfway through the woods,

[00:28:18] I saw someone else

[00:28:19] coming up from the creek.

[00:28:22] It was a boy

[00:28:23] about 14 years old.

[00:28:24] He was wearing a backpack

[00:28:25] that looked heavily burdened.

[00:28:27] As we got closer,

[00:28:29] I grew increasingly

[00:28:29] confused and shocked.

[00:28:31] The boy looked exactly

[00:28:33] like I did at that age.

[00:28:35] I wanted to say something

[00:28:37] to him as he passed,

[00:28:38] but I couldn't find

[00:28:39] the right words.

[00:28:40] He passed me

[00:28:41] and kept going.

[00:28:43] I walked a little further

[00:28:44] and then stopped

[00:28:45] when it hit me.

[00:28:46] I remembered the encounter

[00:28:48] from my teenage years,

[00:28:49] and I realized

[00:28:51] I had just lived

[00:28:52] the other half

[00:28:53] of the experience.

[00:28:54] Both the man

[00:28:55] and the boy were me.

[00:28:57] Separated by roughly

[00:28:58] 15 years.

[00:29:00] I turned around,

[00:29:01] and I ran back

[00:29:02] to try and catch up

[00:29:03] to the boy

[00:29:04] in the dense

[00:29:04] western Washington woods.

[00:29:06] I ran all the way

[00:29:07] back up the road

[00:29:08] where my truck was parked,

[00:29:09] but he was gone.

[00:29:12] The thing is,

[00:29:13] there was nowhere else

[00:29:14] for him to go

[00:29:14] besides the road,

[00:29:16] and I hadn't stalled

[00:29:17] long enough to lose him.

[00:29:18] He simply vanished.

[00:29:21] Curiosity got the best of me,

[00:29:22] so I hurried down

[00:29:23] to the creek,

[00:29:24] half expecting to find

[00:29:25] my dad fishing

[00:29:26] on the bank.

[00:29:27] 15 years younger.

[00:29:29] But I didn't find anyone.

[00:29:31] I ended up going home,

[00:29:33] deciding this experience

[00:29:34] was just too unbelievable

[00:29:36] to share with my friends

[00:29:37] and family.

[00:29:38] So why do you think

[00:29:59] the nursing assistants

[00:30:00] weren't allowed to write

[00:30:01] anything down

[00:30:02] that was strange

[00:30:03] that took place

[00:30:04] with the residents?

[00:30:05] Well,

[00:30:06] the author actually

[00:30:07] addressed this.

[00:30:08] They said that

[00:30:08] you couldn't talk

[00:30:10] about anything

[00:30:11] that might give

[00:30:12] the facility a bad name.

[00:30:13] They said that

[00:30:14] someone was actually

[00:30:15] fired because they told

[00:30:16] the children of one

[00:30:18] of the residents

[00:30:18] that the facility

[00:30:19] had unexplained

[00:30:20] happenings.

[00:30:22] It's funny because

[00:30:22] there are some states

[00:30:24] where sellers

[00:30:25] are legally required

[00:30:26] to disclose

[00:30:26] whether or not

[00:30:27] a property is haunted

[00:30:28] to any potential buyers,

[00:30:30] or at least

[00:30:30] I know in New York

[00:30:31] there is a lot like that.

[00:30:33] Yeah, yeah,

[00:30:33] there's a few states

[00:30:34] and I was just

[00:30:35] reading about that.

[00:30:36] There was this case

[00:30:37] in New York

[00:30:38] that enforced

[00:30:38] the Ghostbuster ruling

[00:30:40] as they call it.

[00:30:41] Yeah,

[00:30:42] it allowed the buyer

[00:30:43] to rescind

[00:30:44] because they found out

[00:30:45] the place was haunted

[00:30:45] that they were buying.

[00:30:47] Yeah,

[00:30:47] it was some weird thing

[00:30:48] where the seller

[00:30:49] first listed the house

[00:30:50] as haunted

[00:30:51] but later tried

[00:30:52] saying it wasn't

[00:30:52] and the courts

[00:30:53] were basically like

[00:30:54] nah,

[00:30:55] no take backs

[00:30:55] which legitimized

[00:30:57] the haunting itself

[00:30:58] at least legally.

[00:30:59] Yeah,

[00:31:00] yeah,

[00:31:01] we can't let this

[00:31:02] happen again.

[00:31:02] Better write

[00:31:03] a Ghostbuster law.

[00:31:06] Yeah,

[00:31:06] I love it,

[00:31:07] love it.

[00:31:08] You know,

[00:31:08] just the fact

[00:31:09] ghosts and UFOs

[00:31:10] are even a thing

[00:31:11] in legal documents

[00:31:12] makes me so happy.

[00:31:13] Yeah,

[00:31:14] yeah,

[00:31:14] recently a former

[00:31:15] Pentagon UFO hunter

[00:31:16] addressed Congress

[00:31:17] just a few days ago

[00:31:19] talking about

[00:31:19] how the US government

[00:31:20] hides evidence

[00:31:22] about UFOs.

[00:31:23] It was really fascinating

[00:31:25] and you know,

[00:31:25] this is just like

[00:31:26] a fascinating time

[00:31:27] and you know,

[00:31:29] it's weird that governments

[00:31:30] make laws

[00:31:31] about supernatural stuff.

[00:31:33] Yep,

[00:31:34] I think that's a sign

[00:31:35] that something is there.

[00:31:36] Yeah,

[00:31:37] yeah,

[00:31:37] I'm expecting them

[00:31:38] to start applying

[00:31:38] air traffic laws

[00:31:39] to aliens.

[00:31:41] Oh man,

[00:31:42] you'd have so many

[00:31:43] disgruntled

[00:31:43] FAA employees

[00:31:45] and air traffic

[00:31:46] controllers.

[00:31:47] Imagine all the red tape

[00:31:48] and additional procedures

[00:31:50] and protocol

[00:31:50] that would come with

[00:31:51] legitimizing alien pilots.

[00:31:53] Like not just UFOs,

[00:31:54] but aliens piloting

[00:31:56] these things

[00:31:56] who,

[00:31:58] mind you,

[00:31:58] probably find the concept

[00:31:59] of borders

[00:32:00] and private airspace

[00:32:01] extremely silly.

[00:32:03] You don't think

[00:32:03] that aliens

[00:32:04] have their own turf

[00:32:05] up in space?

[00:32:08] I don't know.

[00:32:09] Yeah,

[00:32:10] I bet they roam around

[00:32:11] like packs of wolves

[00:32:12] using beacons

[00:32:13] or something

[00:32:14] to ward away

[00:32:14] rival aliens.

[00:32:15] You know,

[00:32:16] I do like that.

[00:32:17] I'm sure they're up there

[00:32:18] like,

[00:32:18] oh,

[00:32:18] the green goblins

[00:32:19] better not see

[00:32:20] any of you

[00:32:20] meanie greenies

[00:32:21] around these parts

[00:32:22] ever again.

[00:32:24] Stay 17,000 light years

[00:32:26] away from Tigiak

[00:32:27] or else.

[00:32:29] Tigiak.

[00:32:29] I caught that.

[00:32:31] I caught that.

[00:32:32] Only real cultists know.

[00:32:34] Yeah,

[00:32:34] more should.

[00:32:35] Yeah.

[00:32:36] We'll just let the uninitiated

[00:32:37] Google that one.

[00:32:38] Yeah,

[00:32:39] keeps that fun.

[00:32:40] A little gatekeeping

[00:32:40] never hurt anyone.

[00:32:42] Man,

[00:32:42] just a couple of days ago

[00:32:43] the government came out

[00:32:44] with a new report

[00:32:45] documenting hundreds

[00:32:46] of more UFO cases

[00:32:48] we previously

[00:32:49] weren't made aware of.

[00:32:50] Yeah,

[00:32:51] that was probably connected

[00:32:51] to the address

[00:32:53] that they did with Congress.

[00:32:54] I think that at least

[00:32:55] a dozen of those

[00:32:56] were truly unidentified

[00:32:58] in the sense

[00:32:58] that they have

[00:32:59] no leading theories

[00:33:00] completely stumped.

[00:33:02] Yeah,

[00:33:03] yeah.

[00:33:03] I just love how casual it is

[00:33:05] the government is finally

[00:33:06] able to be like

[00:33:07] yep,

[00:33:07] that's a UFO

[00:33:08] but don't call them that.

[00:33:09] Yeah,

[00:33:10] it's such a silly compromise.

[00:33:11] It actually infuriates me

[00:33:13] but whatever.

[00:33:14] Yeah.

[00:33:14] The old timers

[00:33:15] and hyper rationalists

[00:33:17] will always

[00:33:18] have a negative association

[00:33:19] with UFO

[00:33:20] so if calling them UAPs

[00:33:22] is what it takes

[00:33:23] for a real discussion

[00:33:25] to be had

[00:33:26] so be it

[00:33:27] I guess.

[00:33:27] Well,

[00:33:28] yeah,

[00:33:29] I'm with you.

[00:33:29] I'm actually

[00:33:30] fairly optimistic

[00:33:31] that we'll get

[00:33:32] something substantial

[00:33:33] from the government

[00:33:34] in our lifetime.

[00:33:35] Not this vague

[00:33:36] we don't know what it is

[00:33:37] so technically

[00:33:37] it's a UAP

[00:33:38] but do not

[00:33:40] ask us about aliens.

[00:33:42] Or else

[00:33:42] we'll spank you.

[00:33:44] Yeah.

[00:33:45] Yeah.

[00:33:46] Fun.

[00:33:47] So with the ghost busting law

[00:33:49] I'm generally

[00:33:50] not in favor

[00:33:51] of rules and laws

[00:33:53] keep it simple

[00:33:54] but I'd for sure

[00:33:55] want to know

[00:33:56] if the nursing facility

[00:33:57] I'm putting a family member in

[00:33:58] is haunted or not.

[00:33:59] Yeah.

[00:34:00] But ideally

[00:34:01] I'd have the time

[00:34:02] and space

[00:34:02] and resources

[00:34:03] just to take care

[00:34:04] of my loved ones

[00:34:04] for myself.

[00:34:05] Yeah.

[00:34:06] And then your house

[00:34:06] ends up being haunted

[00:34:07] anyway

[00:34:08] so it makes no difference.

[00:34:10] You know

[00:34:11] it seems so cheesy

[00:34:12] and forced

[00:34:13] to claim my house

[00:34:14] is haunted

[00:34:14] because it's so convenient

[00:34:16] after my three loud bang story

[00:34:18] in the old house

[00:34:19] keeping up some storyline

[00:34:20] for entertainment purposes

[00:34:22] but I've definitely

[00:34:23] heard some things

[00:34:24] in this new house

[00:34:25] just not much

[00:34:27] of a plot line

[00:34:27] to turn it into a story.

[00:34:29] Like yeah

[00:34:30] a few nights ago

[00:34:31] I heard a loud sneeze

[00:34:32] from the next room

[00:34:33] but I was home alone.

[00:34:35] Oh wow.

[00:34:36] Not home alone

[00:34:37] to lost in New York.

[00:34:39] Yeah.

[00:34:40] Sorry

[00:34:41] but that was just

[00:34:41] a frogger living

[00:34:42] between your walls.

[00:34:44] Shit.

[00:34:44] Well

[00:34:45] well that answers that.

[00:34:47] No don't get me wrong

[00:34:49] you are loved

[00:34:50] and you are heard

[00:34:52] but you've also

[00:34:53] been debunked.

[00:34:55] Yeah I didn't follow

[00:34:56] proto I get it.

[00:34:57] At least you can still

[00:34:58] be on good terms

[00:34:59] with your realtor

[00:35:00] since you guys

[00:35:00] are neighbors.

[00:35:02] True.

[00:35:02] Yes.

[00:35:03] I can't exactly

[00:35:04] ask for a refund either

[00:35:05] if the house

[00:35:05] were haunted.

[00:35:07] I don't know

[00:35:07] how these

[00:35:08] home buyers

[00:35:09] are proving

[00:35:10] that a house

[00:35:10] is haunted

[00:35:11] are not though.

[00:35:12] I think it sounds

[00:35:13] like a job

[00:35:13] for a couple

[00:35:14] of podcast hosts.

[00:35:16] Oh yeah

[00:35:16] could be a good

[00:35:17] TV show idea.

[00:35:18] That too

[00:35:19] that too

[00:35:19] that actually

[00:35:20] makes me think

[00:35:21] of Sue Stanford

[00:35:22] the ghost realtor.

[00:35:24] What

[00:35:24] who is that?

[00:35:25] She was on

[00:35:26] an episode

[00:35:27] of Nathan

[00:35:27] for you.

[00:35:28] Okay.

[00:35:29] One of the only

[00:35:30] times his expert

[00:35:31] business advice

[00:35:32] turned out

[00:35:32] for the better

[00:35:33] because she's

[00:35:33] still running

[00:35:34] with it

[00:35:34] and doing well

[00:35:35] from what I can tell.

[00:35:35] Such a good episode.

[00:35:37] He also makes

[00:35:38] a mechanic

[00:35:38] take a polygraph

[00:35:39] to ensure

[00:35:40] that he's not

[00:35:41] like upcharging

[00:35:42] his customers.

[00:35:42] I love that show.

[00:35:44] Definitely the top

[00:35:44] three for me.

[00:35:45] Yeah that was one

[00:35:46] of the few

[00:35:46] that I actually

[00:35:47] watched the few

[00:35:48] episodes.

[00:35:48] But yeah I gotta

[00:35:49] watch that one again.

[00:35:51] Yeah there's like a

[00:35:52] 10 minute synopsis

[00:35:53] on YouTube.

[00:35:54] Just look up

[00:35:54] Nathan Ghost

[00:35:55] Reelder.

[00:35:56] Link in the show notes.

[00:35:58] If I remember to.

[00:36:00] Yeah.

[00:36:01] Well getting back

[00:36:01] to the story.

[00:36:02] Strange and paranormal

[00:36:03] events are somewhat

[00:36:04] common with facilities

[00:36:06] that help people

[00:36:07] during the end of life

[00:36:08] stages.

[00:36:10] I'd never heard

[00:36:11] about the window

[00:36:12] thing though.

[00:36:13] Maybe walking

[00:36:14] through walls

[00:36:15] is something that

[00:36:16] spirits have to learn

[00:36:17] to do over time.

[00:36:19] Oh yeah I wonder

[00:36:20] if like after death

[00:36:22] we have to learn

[00:36:23] how to be a proper

[00:36:24] ghost.

[00:36:24] Kind of like a toddler

[00:36:25] learning to walk

[00:36:26] or talk.

[00:36:27] Yeah yeah I can see

[00:36:28] that.

[00:36:29] I just hope we don't

[00:36:29] have to wear ghost

[00:36:30] diapers.

[00:36:31] Oh man potty

[00:36:32] training in the

[00:36:33] spirit world

[00:36:33] sounds awful.

[00:36:35] No no thank you.

[00:36:37] As much as I love

[00:36:38] food and sleep

[00:36:38] I wish they were

[00:36:40] both completely

[00:36:40] voluntary activities.

[00:36:42] This is way off

[00:36:42] topic but this is

[00:36:44] important to me.

[00:36:45] If I could never

[00:36:46] feel hungry again

[00:36:47] and not need

[00:36:48] food to survive

[00:36:49] I think I'd opt

[00:36:50] in.

[00:36:51] As long as there

[00:36:52] aren't any weird

[00:36:52] cravings I'd be

[00:36:53] fully content as

[00:36:55] some sort of

[00:36:56] culinary asexual.

[00:36:58] Yeah yeah that's

[00:36:59] a tough call though.

[00:37:00] Food is one of my

[00:37:00] few pleasures that I

[00:37:01] like to indulge in

[00:37:02] but it would be so

[00:37:04] convenient to not

[00:37:05] have to take time out

[00:37:06] of your day to

[00:37:07] refuel so many times

[00:37:09] over and over again

[00:37:10] every single day.

[00:37:11] It gets so old and I

[00:37:12] get so tired of eating

[00:37:13] all the same things

[00:37:14] you know.

[00:37:15] Yeah no it becomes a

[00:37:16] chore and a task and

[00:37:17] I don't like those.

[00:37:19] But yeah it's like the

[00:37:20] perfect analogy.

[00:37:21] We'd be electric

[00:37:22] vehicles that never

[00:37:24] need to be recharged.

[00:37:25] Yeah.

[00:37:25] Add in the whole sleep

[00:37:27] is biologically optional

[00:37:28] thing and we could

[00:37:29] nearly double our

[00:37:31] perceived lifespan.

[00:37:32] And hey what more

[00:37:34] precious of a resource

[00:37:34] than time.

[00:37:36] Yeah time.

[00:37:37] Something we're going to

[00:37:37] get into.

[00:37:38] That's a good sell.

[00:37:39] Thank you.

[00:37:41] Yeah okay fine.

[00:37:42] Hard maybe for me as

[00:37:44] long as the option to

[00:37:46] eat and sleep is there

[00:37:47] and not totally

[00:37:48] removed.

[00:37:49] That's less fun but

[00:37:50] I'll accept it.

[00:37:52] So speaking of time

[00:37:54] Jack Spratt's

[00:37:55] Washington story

[00:37:56] reminded me of

[00:37:57] 12 Monkeys.

[00:37:58] Oh yeah me too.

[00:37:59] Yeah and it's a topic

[00:38:00] that's been covered in a

[00:38:01] lot of media over the

[00:38:02] years and real life

[00:38:04] accounts.

[00:38:05] It actually reminded me

[00:38:06] of this Hugh Jackman

[00:38:07] movie The Fountain.

[00:38:08] It's very very good.

[00:38:09] I love that.

[00:38:10] I think that was this

[00:38:11] I can't pronounce his

[00:38:12] name off the top of my

[00:38:12] head but I think it was

[00:38:13] the same director as

[00:38:14] Requiem for a Dream

[00:38:15] in Pi.

[00:38:16] Yeah it is.

[00:38:17] Yeah Aronofsky.

[00:38:18] Yeah that's right.

[00:38:19] That's right.

[00:38:19] Really good movie.

[00:38:20] A lot of people

[00:38:21] kind of have mixed

[00:38:22] opinions on it but

[00:38:23] I loved it.

[00:38:25] Yeah I did too.

[00:38:26] Yeah time travel and

[00:38:27] time slips are so

[00:38:28] interesting and I think

[00:38:29] it's extremely plausible.

[00:38:31] Yeah especially if you

[00:38:32] consider Einstein's

[00:38:32] ideas like you know

[00:38:34] how time is more

[00:38:35] what's the word

[00:38:36] dynamic rather than

[00:38:38] fixed but yeah I

[00:38:39] don't know it all gets

[00:38:40] really confusing at some

[00:38:41] point.

[00:38:42] Yeah if you investigate

[00:38:44] too deeply on the

[00:38:45] topic you'll get a

[00:38:45] headache for sure but

[00:38:46] I think time is

[00:38:47] definitely relative.

[00:38:48] You know I had this

[00:38:49] younger listener

[00:38:50] probably eight or

[00:38:51] nine.

[00:38:51] I hope I'm aging him

[00:38:53] correctly but he came to

[00:38:54] my show in Sacramento

[00:38:55] with his dad and he

[00:38:57] brought me this drawing

[00:38:58] that he did of the

[00:38:59] Let's Not Meet podcast

[00:39:00] artwork.

[00:39:01] Really cool kid.

[00:39:02] I asked him how long he

[00:39:03] had been listening to the

[00:39:04] podcast and he told me

[00:39:06] forever.

[00:39:07] And I asked him like

[00:39:08] how long?

[00:39:10] And he said like six

[00:39:11] months.

[00:39:12] You know or something

[00:39:13] close to that.

[00:39:14] And I was like yeah

[00:39:14] that's forever for him.

[00:39:16] Yeah for him that is

[00:39:17] forever and for us six

[00:39:19] months is nothing.

[00:39:20] Time makes no sense.

[00:39:21] I think a lot of it has

[00:39:23] to deal with like when

[00:39:24] we're children we view

[00:39:25] the world as more of a

[00:39:26] sense of wonder and

[00:39:28] mystery to you know

[00:39:30] what I mean.

[00:39:30] And we don't have any

[00:39:31] sort of like chores and

[00:39:33] responsibilities and

[00:39:34] adult anxieties to

[00:39:35] concern ourselves with

[00:39:36] so we can just

[00:39:37] essentially view the

[00:39:38] world as a sandbox to

[00:39:40] explore and time isn't

[00:39:42] like a creeping thing

[00:39:43] for us.

[00:39:43] I say us like in the

[00:39:45] present tense like we're

[00:39:46] children but I know

[00:39:48] yeah I think it's

[00:39:49] because we have the

[00:39:49] the excited anticipation

[00:39:51] of becoming an adult

[00:39:52] then yeah no I'm done

[00:39:54] with this but I agree.

[00:39:57] No no no I get it I

[00:39:58] get it.

[00:39:59] I'm so worn out.

[00:40:00] Time slips like the

[00:40:02] one in Jack's story.

[00:40:03] They've been documented

[00:40:04] for years.

[00:40:05] I hope that we get

[00:40:06] more of these stories

[00:40:07] and I want to hear

[00:40:08] more about the

[00:40:09] phenomena.

[00:40:10] Yes absolutely.

[00:40:11] Good stuff.

[00:40:12] Yeah good stories this

[00:40:13] week.

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